I said I wouldn't rant, I know, I said it, but come on people! As somebody trying to learn new things along with everybody else out there I am greatful for the vast amount of articles and code samples that are freely available on the net, but please if you're going to post things that you say work, make sure they do. I don't know if maybe it was just the things I was looking for today or what? I found a number of samples, but when I would start to try them I would be bombarded with issues. I guess that's why things for free are free. I shouldn't complain becuase I don't have endless amount of free 100% bug free code on my site. It sure does however make me appreciate those individuals that consistantly put out good code and advise for their peers. Enough said...